Все о ловле троллингом (обсуждение)
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Красивый фильм про троллинг, не тролям не смотреть
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ветку себе закрытую сделайтеJaroslav писал(а):Красивый фильм про троллинг, не тролям не смотреть
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Хотя и не смотрел, и не буду
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Тут http://www.striborg.ee/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=252Jaroslav писал(а):Ворос к профи. Эду, Алекс ктото из Вас писал про снасточки, где не помню. Вопрос собственно как их готовить. Купил салаки засолил в тузлуке, уже два дня, а дальше как? Вроде их както подсушивать надо
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Фильм снят красиво и зочотно, но экипированы ребята для троллинга чисто по-лондонски...Jaroslav писал(а):Красивый фильм про троллинг, не тролям не смотреть
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Слава, привет! Только заметил вопрос... Перед рыбалкой, на ночь в перенасыщенный раствор соли, а утром в бой. Смысл только в том, чтоб крепче держались. Салака очень нежная, без соли разваливается через полчаса.Jaroslav писал(а):Ворос к... Эду, Алекс ктото из Вас писал про снасточки, где не помню. Вопрос собственно как их готовить. Купил салаки засолил в тузлуке, уже два дня, а дальше как? Вроде их както подсушивать надо
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Перевод статьи отсюда - http://www.kalakerho.net/uistelu_taimen.htm
THE TROUT'S UISTELU (UISTELU - это троллинг)
The lake trout is always a challenging resistance and the supply to the end of the line requires tough sitting in the boat. By studying a matter, the possibilities are considerably facilitated. The trout's uistelu has to be concentrated in those seasons when one can get it to the end of the line helpoiten. The weather and the temperature of water and the trout's nourishment on the business are crucial factors. The choice of the Vaappu succeeds more easily than the above mentioned points. One is able to get the trout to the end of the line from the beginning of September to the middle of October during the reaching time period the most probably. The individual small trout's supply to the end of the line is easy, among others, at the Inari lake but we concentrate on the big trout's supply to the end of the line here.
BASIC INFORMATION
The trout stocks vary violently according to the vendace stocks or according to its another dish. There are only few ten good trout waters in our country but there are smaller opinions in our several hundreds of lakes. Often how are the trouts of lakes plants but their spawn succeeds well here and there, if the trouts have time to grow big (about 3kg).
The lake trout is a fish of prey whose head catch consists of the vendace. In addition to the vendace, the perch and hyönteisravinto suit a trout next best. In the emergency the trout also eats roaches and a minnow but then the trout does not grow very big.
The trout's ways of life in the lake depend on the nourishment used totally by it, in other words first one has to clarify what food the trout at your own fishery uses. One moves on a wide ray and it does not have its own territory in the lake but only if it rises to the river to the plant to spawn. The trout, of course, has favourite places from which it always catches them with certain air and wind. Because the trout does not have a territory, it hits a lure as a rule so in order only to eat and so does not drive an intruder away. This facilitates the choice of the vaappu considerably, in other words it has to resemble its natural nourishment and has to be an easy bite to it. If so there is a good vendace stock in the lake, the vaappu have to resemble it. The vendace goes through the plankton by eating most which it forms on the surface layers. The vendaces near the surface are the easiest catch to the trout a half metre and the own fish diary tells that I have got 80% of the trout from the depth of under 3 metres and the largest part has hit also from them when the vaappu has floated below the surface. The rest have come from the space water a deeper one but the trouts that have been obtained with the help of syvätakila are really rare from near the bottom.
If a trout uses other fish species as a nourishment, the types of fishing must be changed totally for example a perch. In other words then a trout can be obtained quite from the bottom of the deep in the autumn and from the shore waters in the spring and summer. So the Uistelija must know different seasons, the whereabouts and ways of life of the trout's nourishment.
EXTRA EQUIPMENT AND LURES
In addition to a boat and motor, the most important equipment is the sivuplaanarit with which the trout's supply is considerably facilitated. The trout preys in the surface waters and when meeting the boat, it gives way to the page where the lures also are an outstanding debt. According to the money situation, plaanajamasto is chosen either a line, directly, the pikkuplanaajat ( about 20 €/ a piece) to be fastened or got in one go on the decent dead standing trees which make the floating of the lure possible on both side of 4-5 boats.
The use of the echo sounder is important with which bottom forms are observed. Into the memory it will be marked when the fish catches what kind of a bottom there was then under the fish.
The surest about the Vaappu are pointing out vaappu to the pages 7-12 that swings the rear and tuikata centimetres of a natural trout's nourishment. Mainly vendace-coloured vaappu in which hit full stops are used as an effect or an exaggerated violet or blue in the autumn. The use of täkyraksi in which a vendace is used as a bait (frozen) also is extremely favoured. So-called läkkeri gets versatility to the swimming of the täkyraksi. Läkkeri is fixed to a straight line in front of the täkyraksi about 5-30 centimetres.
In picture ends of the raksihuppu.
On both sides of the Midsummer one is able to get the trout best to the end of the line by floating different flies. Then as the trouts popsia from the surface the water butterflies or day dragonflies must be absolutely tried with their imitations. The spoon lure almost always operates better than a vaappu with a summer warm one.
My own suosikkivaappu:
My favourite colour of cold spring water
Colour of midsummer and of sunny weather
The best colour of the late summer and of the autumn that also serves as the darkest moments of the midsummer
Surprise colours of the late autumn which particularly in the rain have given a few big trouts.
Stimulation colour of August-September which has shown a shy trout its effect in the competition a couple of times when others have asked for an empty one.
EFFECT OF THE SEASONS ON THE TYPE OF FISHING
Autumn
The absolute high season of the trout's uistelu begins with the first half of September and it will take to the middle of October. In September the vendaces have gathered to the swarms and they circle on wide rays looking for the spawn rocks. Cooling waters at the same time when, most plankton forms quite in the surface waters in which the vendaces and trouts also move so more than before. In that case the temperature of the surface water is about 8-10 degrees and the taimenvaappu should float in 2-4 metres. In a few degrees cooler water you wobble, it is tuned to swim in the depth of 1-2 metres.
In the Syyskalastus a few points have to be taken into consideration.
- If the shores are taken by the autumn foliage papers, the vendaces will firstly stay more farther off from the shores in space water.
- The plant will be eaten for all day and the top eating happens at the warmest moments of the afternoon at about 14-16 o'clock. With the clear sunny weather the trout, however, stays deep so the fishing weather is the finest cloudy or rainy day (half).
- The wind which has continued for a long time gets the surface waters and at the same time the vendace swarms to haja. Then the trouts look for the sections in which water is the clearest and clearest. Tällainen the place is often found on the shore of the deep on calm side. The best catches will be obtained when the wind is 5-10 m/s and the trout is extremely delicate quite mirror calm. Winds between the south and the West are the best of the directions of the wind.
- Air which is colder than what its slower speed is driven in the boat. Likewise it visits with, in other words without the choice of the vaappu when cooling off, it is changed for vaappu which are kicking more slowly. The suitable driving speed is from 1,5 knots to the knot. Self often how for the time I do not in other words favour a quick uistelu at a speed of 1,5-2 of the knot as many other seems to be doing. One has to remember from the Vaappu that what bigger vaappu you use a it slower one to drive is worthwhile.
Since the early autumn the fishing will be concentrated on the near back rocks of deeps, on the edges of islands and on the harrow health of bigger shore banks. Later in the autumn mainly the cape points and beaches of shores will be circled. The more steeply the shore deepens, the so better the trout there feels happy. The fishing of rocks is worthwhile whenever it is asked for the trout. Instead it is unnecessary to fish evenly long littorals.
The Syyskalastus can be discontinued when the vendaces have spawned and water has gone down into about 1-3 degrees. At the end of October there will be the best fishing time at 10-14 the clearest moment of the day, in other words o'clock. Usually the catches will become smaller per late autumn.
The Jukka succeeded in getting the trout still from 18.12 low waters healthy ones.
Spring
The spring season is short but the experimenting's worth. As soon as ices are about to leave and to troll are able at least to a part of the lake, the uistelija has to be there. The season will continue for about 2 weeks. A plant it is extremely active and will catch to the vaappu eagerly when one remembers to float them slowly. In the spring the first planktons will form on unfrozen shores and there are small fish wandering there behind him, the trouts. The trouts may be on the limit of usually calm and wind quite in the water of half a metre. Ottiaikaa is the best the hours of the afternoon. Basic vendace next to the vaappu the orange stimulation colour also has given the spring trout.
Midsummer
In the midsummer the trout will be often passive but it makes even the big trout get excited active, if in the lake there is good hyönteistuotanto. At the moment there are usually the two weeks following since the Midsummer when it is the biggest to hatch water butterflies. The Uistelu will take place during the coldest time, in other words from evening for a small hours mainly for a day. The condition is often a small breath of wind because the trout is afraid of too much boat on a quite mirror calm one. Usually it will be seldom blowing in the midsummer so the use is recommended with which plaanareiden makes the lures swim straightforwardly on the side of the boat.
In the midsummer small flies will be worth fastening to the end of the lines: pupaperho and uppoperho but with a good eating the big flies also taste quite equally well. The fly is made swim "with the sucker, in other words with the keg". The second alternative is to fish with spoon lures. In the midsummer it will be the most important that an extremely slow speed is trolled and therefore the vaappu do not apply very well.
The big trouts will be found by usually quite from the top of the deeps, in other words it is not now worthwhile to go near the shores.
Esko's 7 kg giant plant it came from the top of the deep in the middle of the summer when the weather became cloudy and cool.
THE TROUT'S UISTELU (UISTELU - это троллинг)
The lake trout is always a challenging resistance and the supply to the end of the line requires tough sitting in the boat. By studying a matter, the possibilities are considerably facilitated. The trout's uistelu has to be concentrated in those seasons when one can get it to the end of the line helpoiten. The weather and the temperature of water and the trout's nourishment on the business are crucial factors. The choice of the Vaappu succeeds more easily than the above mentioned points. One is able to get the trout to the end of the line from the beginning of September to the middle of October during the reaching time period the most probably. The individual small trout's supply to the end of the line is easy, among others, at the Inari lake but we concentrate on the big trout's supply to the end of the line here.
BASIC INFORMATION
The trout stocks vary violently according to the vendace stocks or according to its another dish. There are only few ten good trout waters in our country but there are smaller opinions in our several hundreds of lakes. Often how are the trouts of lakes plants but their spawn succeeds well here and there, if the trouts have time to grow big (about 3kg).
The lake trout is a fish of prey whose head catch consists of the vendace. In addition to the vendace, the perch and hyönteisravinto suit a trout next best. In the emergency the trout also eats roaches and a minnow but then the trout does not grow very big.
The trout's ways of life in the lake depend on the nourishment used totally by it, in other words first one has to clarify what food the trout at your own fishery uses. One moves on a wide ray and it does not have its own territory in the lake but only if it rises to the river to the plant to spawn. The trout, of course, has favourite places from which it always catches them with certain air and wind. Because the trout does not have a territory, it hits a lure as a rule so in order only to eat and so does not drive an intruder away. This facilitates the choice of the vaappu considerably, in other words it has to resemble its natural nourishment and has to be an easy bite to it. If so there is a good vendace stock in the lake, the vaappu have to resemble it. The vendace goes through the plankton by eating most which it forms on the surface layers. The vendaces near the surface are the easiest catch to the trout a half metre and the own fish diary tells that I have got 80% of the trout from the depth of under 3 metres and the largest part has hit also from them when the vaappu has floated below the surface. The rest have come from the space water a deeper one but the trouts that have been obtained with the help of syvätakila are really rare from near the bottom.
If a trout uses other fish species as a nourishment, the types of fishing must be changed totally for example a perch. In other words then a trout can be obtained quite from the bottom of the deep in the autumn and from the shore waters in the spring and summer. So the Uistelija must know different seasons, the whereabouts and ways of life of the trout's nourishment.
EXTRA EQUIPMENT AND LURES
In addition to a boat and motor, the most important equipment is the sivuplaanarit with which the trout's supply is considerably facilitated. The trout preys in the surface waters and when meeting the boat, it gives way to the page where the lures also are an outstanding debt. According to the money situation, plaanajamasto is chosen either a line, directly, the pikkuplanaajat ( about 20 €/ a piece) to be fastened or got in one go on the decent dead standing trees which make the floating of the lure possible on both side of 4-5 boats.
The use of the echo sounder is important with which bottom forms are observed. Into the memory it will be marked when the fish catches what kind of a bottom there was then under the fish.
The surest about the Vaappu are pointing out vaappu to the pages 7-12 that swings the rear and tuikata centimetres of a natural trout's nourishment. Mainly vendace-coloured vaappu in which hit full stops are used as an effect or an exaggerated violet or blue in the autumn. The use of täkyraksi in which a vendace is used as a bait (frozen) also is extremely favoured. So-called läkkeri gets versatility to the swimming of the täkyraksi. Läkkeri is fixed to a straight line in front of the täkyraksi about 5-30 centimetres.
In picture ends of the raksihuppu.
On both sides of the Midsummer one is able to get the trout best to the end of the line by floating different flies. Then as the trouts popsia from the surface the water butterflies or day dragonflies must be absolutely tried with their imitations. The spoon lure almost always operates better than a vaappu with a summer warm one.
My own suosikkivaappu:
My favourite colour of cold spring water
Colour of midsummer and of sunny weather
The best colour of the late summer and of the autumn that also serves as the darkest moments of the midsummer
Surprise colours of the late autumn which particularly in the rain have given a few big trouts.
Stimulation colour of August-September which has shown a shy trout its effect in the competition a couple of times when others have asked for an empty one.
EFFECT OF THE SEASONS ON THE TYPE OF FISHING
Autumn
The absolute high season of the trout's uistelu begins with the first half of September and it will take to the middle of October. In September the vendaces have gathered to the swarms and they circle on wide rays looking for the spawn rocks. Cooling waters at the same time when, most plankton forms quite in the surface waters in which the vendaces and trouts also move so more than before. In that case the temperature of the surface water is about 8-10 degrees and the taimenvaappu should float in 2-4 metres. In a few degrees cooler water you wobble, it is tuned to swim in the depth of 1-2 metres.
In the Syyskalastus a few points have to be taken into consideration.
- If the shores are taken by the autumn foliage papers, the vendaces will firstly stay more farther off from the shores in space water.
- The plant will be eaten for all day and the top eating happens at the warmest moments of the afternoon at about 14-16 o'clock. With the clear sunny weather the trout, however, stays deep so the fishing weather is the finest cloudy or rainy day (half).
- The wind which has continued for a long time gets the surface waters and at the same time the vendace swarms to haja. Then the trouts look for the sections in which water is the clearest and clearest. Tällainen the place is often found on the shore of the deep on calm side. The best catches will be obtained when the wind is 5-10 m/s and the trout is extremely delicate quite mirror calm. Winds between the south and the West are the best of the directions of the wind.
- Air which is colder than what its slower speed is driven in the boat. Likewise it visits with, in other words without the choice of the vaappu when cooling off, it is changed for vaappu which are kicking more slowly. The suitable driving speed is from 1,5 knots to the knot. Self often how for the time I do not in other words favour a quick uistelu at a speed of 1,5-2 of the knot as many other seems to be doing. One has to remember from the Vaappu that what bigger vaappu you use a it slower one to drive is worthwhile.
Since the early autumn the fishing will be concentrated on the near back rocks of deeps, on the edges of islands and on the harrow health of bigger shore banks. Later in the autumn mainly the cape points and beaches of shores will be circled. The more steeply the shore deepens, the so better the trout there feels happy. The fishing of rocks is worthwhile whenever it is asked for the trout. Instead it is unnecessary to fish evenly long littorals.
The Syyskalastus can be discontinued when the vendaces have spawned and water has gone down into about 1-3 degrees. At the end of October there will be the best fishing time at 10-14 the clearest moment of the day, in other words o'clock. Usually the catches will become smaller per late autumn.
The Jukka succeeded in getting the trout still from 18.12 low waters healthy ones.
Spring
The spring season is short but the experimenting's worth. As soon as ices are about to leave and to troll are able at least to a part of the lake, the uistelija has to be there. The season will continue for about 2 weeks. A plant it is extremely active and will catch to the vaappu eagerly when one remembers to float them slowly. In the spring the first planktons will form on unfrozen shores and there are small fish wandering there behind him, the trouts. The trouts may be on the limit of usually calm and wind quite in the water of half a metre. Ottiaikaa is the best the hours of the afternoon. Basic vendace next to the vaappu the orange stimulation colour also has given the spring trout.
Midsummer
In the midsummer the trout will be often passive but it makes even the big trout get excited active, if in the lake there is good hyönteistuotanto. At the moment there are usually the two weeks following since the Midsummer when it is the biggest to hatch water butterflies. The Uistelu will take place during the coldest time, in other words from evening for a small hours mainly for a day. The condition is often a small breath of wind because the trout is afraid of too much boat on a quite mirror calm one. Usually it will be seldom blowing in the midsummer so the use is recommended with which plaanareiden makes the lures swim straightforwardly on the side of the boat.
In the midsummer small flies will be worth fastening to the end of the lines: pupaperho and uppoperho but with a good eating the big flies also taste quite equally well. The fly is made swim "with the sucker, in other words with the keg". The second alternative is to fish with spoon lures. In the midsummer it will be the most important that an extremely slow speed is trolled and therefore the vaappu do not apply very well.
The big trouts will be found by usually quite from the top of the deeps, in other words it is not now worthwhile to go near the shores.
Esko's 7 kg giant plant it came from the top of the deep in the middle of the summer when the weather became cloudy and cool.
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Re: Заметки (говорим) о троллинге
При ловле с даунриггерами настроили снасти таким образом, что теперь в эхолоте видно не только дно, но и приманки на его фоне. Теперь можно не держать в голове собственное заглубление воблера, вот дно, а вот воблер. Дёргай его куда хош!
На представленом ниже фото, работают два даунриггера с грузами и два воблера на разной глубине, а дуги на дне - это голодные рыбасы :
На представленом ниже фото, работают два даунриггера с грузами и два воблера на разной глубине, а дуги на дне - это голодные рыбасы :
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Re: Заметки (говорим) о троллинге
Г.Э.С.
Это вы скока должны приблуды ваши от грузов дауна отпускать - на полметра штоль ?
Отраженное эхо вы от дно/грузы даунов словили настройками вашими - 15ть метров назад ваш кахалот зырить не может - какие воблеры,что за бред !
Кстати если устранить помехи отражения сигнала от поверхности воды - вся ваша хрень зеленная с красным до вполводы пропадет - вы ж даже рыбу там выше не видите !
Это вы скока должны приблуды ваши от грузов дауна отпускать - на полметра штоль ?
Отраженное эхо вы от дно/грузы даунов словили настройками вашими - 15ть метров назад ваш кахалот зырить не может - какие воблеры,что за бред !
Кстати если устранить помехи отражения сигнала от поверхности воды - вся ваша хрень зеленная с красным до вполводы пропадет - вы ж даже рыбу там выше не видите !
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Re: Заметки (говорим) о троллинге
Глупо называть бредом то, чего сам не пробовал. Вы, я так понял, отпускаете приманку на 15 метров? Но это же не значит, что именно так надо делать. Чем короче снасть, тем лучше контроль.Arnis писал(а):Г.Э.С.
Это вы скока должны приблуды ваши от грузов дауна отпускать - на полметра штоль ?
Отраженное эхо вы от дно/грузы даунов словили настройками вашими - 15ть метров назад ваш кахалот зырить не может - какие воблеры,что за бред !
Эти дуги-рыбы на дне тоже отражения от других дуг-рыб?
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Re: Заметки (говорим) о троллинге
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Вот смотрю я на эту картинку уже несколько дней и немогу ничего понять, То что удалось увидеть два груза даунригера, это конечно хорошо, но меня смущает интерпретация показания прибора, а конкретно полоса шириной в 2 метра от 5 до 7 метров- это что? Хочется сделать вывод, что чуствительность выставлена по максимуму, тогда этому всему можно найти хоть какое то обьяснение. На хуминбёрде, груз даунригера рисуется достаточно тонкой полосой, что практически можно прировнять его реальному обьёму. Если не ошибаюсь Lowrance HDS-5 угол обзора что то около 120 градусов, рыбу рисовать будет, тут нет никаких сомнений, и рисовать будет как выше грузов так и ниже. А вот про воблеры, которые идут следом за грузами при этом по картинке эхолота, вроде бы как дополнительно заглубившись на 3 метра по отношению к грузам, значит отпуск от даунригера ешё как минимум 5-7 метров (Это из геометрии), и вот тут как раз есть над чем сомневаться. Лично я знаю людей которые даже лёгкий груз 2-3 кг в эхолоте не видят, уж слишком его оттягивает из поля зрения датчика эхолота. Тогда что это за две линии ниже грузов ??? Я почему то склоняюсь к тому, что это отражение сигнала, но никак не воблеры.
Вот смотрю я на эту картинку уже несколько дней и немогу ничего понять, То что удалось увидеть два груза даунригера, это конечно хорошо, но меня смущает интерпретация показания прибора, а конкретно полоса шириной в 2 метра от 5 до 7 метров- это что? Хочется сделать вывод, что чуствительность выставлена по максимуму, тогда этому всему можно найти хоть какое то обьяснение. На хуминбёрде, груз даунригера рисуется достаточно тонкой полосой, что практически можно прировнять его реальному обьёму. Если не ошибаюсь Lowrance HDS-5 угол обзора что то около 120 градусов, рыбу рисовать будет, тут нет никаких сомнений, и рисовать будет как выше грузов так и ниже. А вот про воблеры, которые идут следом за грузами при этом по картинке эхолота, вроде бы как дополнительно заглубившись на 3 метра по отношению к грузам, значит отпуск от даунригера ешё как минимум 5-7 метров (Это из геометрии), и вот тут как раз есть над чем сомневаться. Лично я знаю людей которые даже лёгкий груз 2-3 кг в эхолоте не видят, уж слишком его оттягивает из поля зрения датчика эхолота. Тогда что это за две линии ниже грузов ??? Я почему то склоняюсь к тому, что это отражение сигнала, но никак не воблеры.
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Re: Заметки (говорим) о троллинге
Да Г.Э.С.,
Производители воблеров вообще то рекомендуют отпуск от 100 футов /30 метров - отпускали и мы 15ть
Но 5ть и при этом ловить рыпку - точно рыпка бесстрашная должна быть
По сути Вы правы, я не прав - у Вашего Lowrance HDS-5x - 120 градусов угол конуса если на 200 кГц выставить
Что дает на 9,6 метрах больше 20ти метров захвата дна
Если отпуск сделать меньше 10ки - то забдить воблеры можно,даже вполне рыб ловить мона ежли глубокий воблер поставить !
Аднака для меня 120 градусов для меня открытие - раньше думал макс ультра широкий луч это у Хамов 53 градуса
Янко - что там чувствительность зашкаливает даже не вопрос ! А вот помехи не помехи проверяется просто - по 8ми метрам чиркнут если воблер из прищепки выдернет - значит точно воблеры !
Производители воблеров вообще то рекомендуют отпуск от 100 футов /30 метров - отпускали и мы 15ть
Но 5ть и при этом ловить рыпку - точно рыпка бесстрашная должна быть
По сути Вы правы, я не прав - у Вашего Lowrance HDS-5x - 120 градусов угол конуса если на 200 кГц выставить
Что дает на 9,6 метрах больше 20ти метров захвата дна
Если отпуск сделать меньше 10ки - то забдить воблеры можно,даже вполне рыб ловить мона ежли глубокий воблер поставить !
Аднака для меня 120 градусов для меня открытие - раньше думал макс ультра широкий луч это у Хамов 53 градуса
Янко - что там чувствительность зашкаливает даже не вопрос ! А вот помехи не помехи проверяется просто - по 8ми метрам чиркнут если воблер из прищепки выдернет - значит точно воблеры !
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Re: Заметки (говорим) о троллинге
Арнис, выпускать воблеры на 5 метров за грузом это нормально даже на 3 метра, и рыпко берет факт, или мож нам попадались какието контуженные после контакта с грузом
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Re: Заметки (говорим) о троллинге
Я немного в контексте с твоим постом, которого больше нет написал, поэтому я не утверждаю категорично , что нет, две нижних линии это не воблеры, допускаю, что всё же воблеры, потому как согласен с тобой проверить , это совсем просто. Вот идут грузы с воблерами , поклёвка, и одной полосы нет, и всё сразу понятно. Ну что ещё сказать, если действительно всё так как Эльдар написал, то молодцы, суперски настроили прибор под ловлю давнригером, остаётся только позавидовать, не всем как я говорил удаётся нащупать даже грузы.Arnis писал(а): Янко - что там чувствительность зашкаливает даже не вопрос ! А вот помехи не помехи проверяется просто - по 8ми метрам чиркнут если воблер из прищепки выдернет - значит точно воблеры !
Arnis
Я вот твой датчик ещё даже не запытал, всё нет время , какая то суматоха и дела, вобщем нету времени для тролингу
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